tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post4440573497459045724..comments2020-07-18T07:55:25.202-07:00Comments on The Smoking GMO Gun: Celeb Moms 1, "Science" Moms 0--The Answer To BiofortifiedDerek Bickertonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16164347930159384876noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-67851780076211343802015-08-28T15:54:41.931-07:002015-08-28T15:54:41.931-07:00How can I "check it out" when you won...How can I "check it out" when you won't give me the reference?Derek Bickertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164347930159384876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-65278363619362871962015-08-28T07:17:07.625-07:002015-08-28T07:17:07.625-07:00It's unprecedented. You may not find a quote ...It's unprecedented. You may not find a quote describing it as I have, but you won't find the number of in-vitro and in-vivo assays that were incorporated in the Tier 1 testing regime. And it was developed in plain sight, with input from all stakeholders - including the endocrine society.<br /><br />So, check it out for yourself. The google machine works wonders. I'll retract if you can identify any organized endocrine disruptor screening program, much less a more exhaustive one.Mike Whttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-25130445405310188202015-08-28T01:25:54.358-07:002015-08-28T01:25:54.358-07:00"The best endocrine disruptor screenings ever..."The best endocrine disruptor screenings ever done." Please cite fully your source(s) for this claim.Derek Bickertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164347930159384876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-3572001294495565392015-08-26T15:04:13.991-07:002015-08-26T15:04:13.991-07:00okay
Glyphosate is less toxic than ibuprofen, not ...okay<br />Glyphosate is less toxic than ibuprofen, not cyanide.<br /><br />The WHO has expressed that they find no special reason that GMO's have any higher risk than non GMO's (don't confuse genetic engineering with pesticides)<br /><br />The newest information released from the best endocrine disruptor screenings ever done have found no reason to believe that glyphosate is an ED, and there is no information on it having non-monotonic effects. Your "unsafe at any dose" proved nothing. It cast doubt about the effects of glyphosate by claiming it was an ED, misusing a passing statement in general position statement document from the endocrine society - who by the way took part in development of the EPA's EDSP system, and were enthusiastic about what they were doing.<br /><br />To answer the question about why no one challenge the issues you brought up, well it's because they aren't serious. And you won't publish comments that are "pro-gmo." Why waste time discussing facts when you won't publish them...the facts don't support anti-gmo, so you consider them pro gmo. So nobody can get facts out there to challenge the issues you find serious.Mike Whttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-7987885624905368282015-08-21T13:38:25.968-07:002015-08-21T13:38:25.968-07:00As usual, just trivial distraction--no-one has cha...As usual, just trivial distraction--no-one has challenged the serious issues in my post (How come? No can, asswhy!*)<br /><br />*Explanation in Hawaiian Pidgin.Derek Bickertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164347930159384876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-54227842636452150612015-08-21T10:46:17.946-07:002015-08-21T10:46:17.946-07:00Derek,
If you want to stop being wrong, you shoul...Derek,<br /><br />If you want to stop being wrong, you should allow people to point out your incorrect statements. You made several here. Confusing SPECIES with KINDGOM, misunderstanding the purifying process between sugar beet and sugar.<br /><br />Some of these are issues you have been made aware of before. You seem to have quickly jumped to being detractor to being a deceiver.<br /><br />It's sad. You would do well to open yourself up to correction. Or you will make yourself so wrong that you will find yourself lumped in with the scientifically illiterate people that don't care about truth, they just know they're right...Just like the people you defended here. They have been demonstrably wrong, but here you are defending them with wrong information. <br /><br />You're better than this.Mike Whttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-83382457834997281342015-08-21T06:26:32.161-07:002015-08-21T06:26:32.161-07:00Derek, you finish up with, "Bottom line: It’s...Derek, you finish up with, "Bottom line: It’s not the GMOs themselves that’s the problem, it’s the stuff they spray on the GMOs." This leaves me wondering how you feel about the Rainbow Papaya, Arctic Apple, and Innate Potato. None of these need anything sprayed on them that isn't sprayed on a conventionally-grown crop. Perhaps I've missed it in your previous posts if you had already commented on these.<br />Kent Wagonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-11453670883072010542015-08-20T20:54:37.854-07:002015-08-20T20:54:37.854-07:00In the years since, however, we’ve developed bette...In the years since, however, we’ve developed better and more sustainable technologies using science. We’ve developed synthetic pesticides with lower toxicity levels and higher effectiveness. We can used transgenic selection to get more beneficial traits in a focused manner. So, like the farmers who caused the dust bowl, the organic advocates are holding fast to the old way of doing things. In part, this is due to an appeal to nature, and otherwise because they can charge more to people not educated about farming.<br /><br />One of the most effective and most dishonest marketing successes the organic industry has managed is to convince people that they don’t use pesticides. In reality, they use pesticides that often have higher toxicity levels and need to be applied more often due to lack of efficacy.<br /><br />http://www.rationalityunleashed.net/pesticides-in-organic-and-conventional-farming/<br /><br />http://www.science20.com/agricultural_realism/spending_more_for_organic_does_not_buy_you_pesticidefree-136141Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com