tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post3849706761392248664..comments2020-07-18T07:55:25.202-07:00Comments on The Smoking GMO Gun: Real Science 1: What Science is Really Like.Derek Bickertonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16164347930159384876noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-66106806064900490362015-03-15T00:25:28.765-07:002015-03-15T00:25:28.765-07:00OK, David--I should be aware of the GLP site, beca...OK, David--I should be aware of the GLP site, because I'm banned from it!--you might like to ask Jon Entine why this is, since I have no idea, except maybe he couldn't answer my arguments.<br /><br />I've said it before and I'll say it again--I am not an ideologue. Many people on my side think all GMOs are equally bad. I think this is silly, as silly as thinking all GMOs are equally good and there's nothing bad to say about any of them. I don't know the details of the Florida citrus situation but it sounds like a good case could be made for GE here. You have to take every case on its merits. You will not see indiscriminate trashing of GMOs on this site, but you will see criticism of the kind of fallacious science that is sometimes used to defend even the worst GMO/pesticide combinations.Derek Bickertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164347930159384876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-51052134691379700652015-03-13T04:13:32.479-07:002015-03-13T04:13:32.479-07:00Derek
If you're aware of this site: http://ge...Derek<br /><br />If you're aware of this site: http://geneticliteracyproject.org<br /><br />please give us the benefit of your knowledge of it, in particular articles like this one, from Kevin Folta:<br /><br />http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/03/12/vandana-shiva-trashes-gmos-floridas-best-hope-for-orange-tree-disease/<br /><br />Regards<br />DavidDavid Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06611985777025154905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3720817524471181846.post-44978060822590158562015-03-04T16:53:33.031-08:002015-03-04T16:53:33.031-08:00You make some very valid points. I've also se...You make some very valid points. I've also seen the rhetoric and arrogance that takes place on both sides of the discussion. I've seen the same things you mentioned from supporters. I've also seen it from opponents. One of the more common when asked to provide a source for verification is "Do your own research!" I've also seen offensive language and insults from both sides.<br /><br />I also get somewhat irritated (though I don't see any red mist, lol) when I see someone say GMO is "safe." Nothing can be proven safe, as I'm sure you are well aware. The best we can do is look for harmful events and go from there.<br /><br />I'm sorry, but there is yet again another issue that I must take exception to. You characterize science as very nearly a living thing, and one that might exhibit either rebellion or conformity. I don't believe that to be an accurate description of science at all, at least not the way I want to see it happen. I believe the best science happens when the investigator has no specific purpose in mind, when he works the hardest to remove any bias originating from himself or others involved, and is as impartial as possible. In other words, I don't want to see a researcher say, "I'm going to prove this hypothesis is true," nor do I want to see, "I'm going to prove this hypothesis is false." I want to see a researcher say, "This is an interesting hypothesis. I wonder what we will observe in the data."<br /><br />It's possible that I've been influenced by the researchers I work with, but I think the best science is that which seeks to prove nothing, but simply presents the data. Then, and only then, is it appropriate to attempt drawing any conclusions. Competent peer review is also essential. Kent Wagonernoreply@blogger.com